Innocence: What Is It?
An analysis and report by Claudia Berdella
"Innocent child"
Children are born through an event so traumatic that they can't remember a single detail of it. A case of legitimately repressed memories. I don't think such a bloody , painful and from a certain perspective violent process as birth can be, would produce something innocent.
What even is innocence? If we go by the standard of equating innocence with purity which connects with virginity, then innocence is a lack of sexual experience. But, the world as we know it was made through sex, none of us would be here if our parents and ancestors had stopped fucking without protection. There is no birth (in humans, naturally, without precautions) without intercourse. I guess the idea is a being who hasn't had the exposure or experience in the more raw realities of life. An interesting thing of note in this is the concept of being defiled or no longer a pure creature is essentially the same regardless of whether the act was say con-sensually taken or rape; they both remove said innocence.
Innocence as a byproduct of ignorance to the real extent of the world, naivety seems to be what the answer to the question is. Like how kids who have lived through traumatic events are seen as having lost their innocence; or waking up to the gilded furnishings of the environment around them.
Children are born through an event so traumatic that they can't remember a single detail of it. A case of legitimately repressed memories. I don't think such a bloody , painful and from a certain perspective violent process as birth can be, would produce something innocent.
What even is innocence? If we go by the standard of equating innocence with purity which connects with virginity, then innocence is a lack of sexual experience. But, the world as we know it was made through sex, none of us would be here if our parents and ancestors had stopped fucking without protection. There is no birth (in humans, naturally, without precautions) without intercourse. I guess the idea is a being who hasn't had the exposure or experience in the more raw realities of life. An interesting thing of note in this is the concept of being defiled or no longer a pure creature is essentially the same regardless of whether the act was say con-sensually taken or rape; they both remove said innocence.
Innocence as a byproduct of ignorance to the real extent of the world, naivety seems to be what the answer to the question is. Like how kids who have lived through traumatic events are seen as having lost their innocence; or waking up to the gilded furnishings of the environment around them.
In search of more perspectives on this, I asked a variety of people in hopes of finding differing perspectives on the concept of innocence, however instead of any differing viewpoints they all had answers which were relatively the same gist.
Here are the responses to my inquiries:
Jason Miller: Innocence is a state of mind.
I see it as a lack of guile or corruption; it is a purity of thought that exists untainted by the complexities of life. It’s a kind of simplicity and right to the point in understanding the world, much like the way young children perceive their surroundings.
Consider the example of a child helping to wash the car with his father. In his bliss of joy and happiness, he might use a rock to wipe the car dry. To an adult, this is a clear mistake, perhaps even frustrating because it damaged the car. Yet, the child’s intention was pure and devoid of malice. He didn’t understand the consequence that using a rock could scratch the paint. His actions were driven by a desire to help, illustrating that in his mind, there’s no discernment between right or wrong, but rather a wholesome innocence propelled by good intentions.
This blissful ignorance is often why innocence is cinematic and, at times, revered. It evokes a protective response from those who recognize it.
Watching someone operate under such pure motives can remind us of a time when our own thoughts and actions were not yet complicated by a deep understanding of societal rules and personal experiences.
Innocence holds a mirror to the notion of uncorrupted goodness. It doesn’t imply a lack of intelligence or capability; rather, it shows an unintentional ignorance of complex implications. In adults, maintaining some degree of innocence might be seen as retaining a sense of hopefulness or an unspoiled spirit, despite the realities faced over time.
Understanding innocence means appreciating this purity and the good intentions behind actions, even when they lead to unintended results. It’s a fundamental quality of the human experience that reminds us of our inherent nature to wish well, act positively, and sometimes, quite naturally, make mistakes along the way.
David Brownlee: I never had a conventional era of innocence as a child. And then I’ve also seen people not know what killing, drug, or sex terms are up till age 17. They’re called innocent, but at that point it’s just ignorance. And I’ve seen those same people who don’t know these “scary terms” do disgusting evil. Not exactly innocent are they? And yes I might’ve knew about what a bludgeoning was, what sex was, and what drugs where when I was 7 but I was a cheerful kid. So I believe innocence has nothing to do with knowledge of these topics but rather a person with a lack of hatred for others. Innocence is loss when a child is taught to hate someone else. Whether by a parent or, well usually by a parent probably.
In other words, I don’t think watching the entire Friday the 13th series and cannibal holocaust as a 4 year old is a cause for a loss of innocence... And I don’t think it makes them a psycho either. I’m a strong anti-media makes you violent person. It doesn’t, actually I think the learning of these “scary topics” through media is extremely beneficial for a child and doesn’t make them loose innocence at all. I’m showing my child cannibal holocaust at 4. That’s just the parents trying to get away from their parenting choices.
occultusagenda: Lack of negative intent or harm [...] you wouldn't be innocent if for example you hit a random stranger.
Forever Dirt:Innocence could be being stupid in a good-hearted way, like Elwood P. Dowd… Or being a virgin. I think it doesn't have a clear definition and people just say shit... It's this idea that we start out good and get corrupted over time
Random 1: I would say innocence is a type of ignorance, they say children are pure and innocent, more children are ignorant of the stuff that are deemed by people bad,inappropriate or destructive and once you commit the crime of growing up and maturing you lose that ignorance and so lose your innocent with it.
Follow up question: So, what would be something things which you would say cause the loss of that innocence through learning and growing?
Doing “bad” things I guess. You know, stealing drugs weed alcohol hurting people for no reason causing damage
Random 2: I don't know. I would say the state of uneducation or uninvolvement with a topic to the extent you could argue whatever they do cannot be fairly scrutinized.
Is that innocence or ignorance?
I feel like nobody can be innocent without being ignorant to an extent.
So innocence is connected to awareness?
I would say yes. Awareness and involvement.
Carle: Naïveté seems to define innocence the most to me, or gullibility; having an unburdened and unenlightened mind. Innocence could also portend ignorance as has been previously established above. Really what shapes our perception of innocence are our individual values and emotional perspective... An absence of consciousness and awareness, can render something ‘innocent’.
Joe Nally: Purity. No corruption. Bystander, etc.
How would you define a pure uncorrupted bystander?
Someone who is out of the game. Out of the reality it is imposed upon.
If talking about "innocence" as a virtue or value, that's more based upon knowing ethics, which requires a level of intelligence. That requires also charity and sacrifice.
What would something like “losing innocence” or an “innocent child” mean?
Corruption. Awareness. Losing the past. Transformative.
Random 3: Absence of guilt.
Random 4: Absence of the capacity for evil, i.e. lack of conscience.
End of Questioning
When asked, Chris Korda was inspired to write her own article on the topic of innocence, it is quite a unique and very different perspective from what has been said here so far. It can be read here. An interesting excerpt from it would be this:
"The objective truth of mathematics gives little comfort to the spiritual and religious, however. Zero’s purity does not prevent illness or death. Most of the universe can only be conjectured about, based on radiation it emitted, remnants of which collide with us billions of years later. Nonetheless..."
Innocence is a subjectively consistent idea it would seem, though Korda takes it much farther in every way. Innocence is connected to Purity, a lack of knowledge or unwilling and unwitting ignorance. More responses to my inquiring question What Is Innocence? are appreciated and I can be contacted through various means if interested or have anything to discuss on the topic.
